Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pine Waters, Pennsylvania

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The result was redirect to Lobachsville, Pennsylvania. RL0919 (talk) 04:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pine Waters, Pennsylvania

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:GEOLAND. News articles mention events at a privately-owned park/farm/golf course in the 1930s through 1950s. This clearly was not a community, and does not seem to have received significant coverage either. –dlthewave ☎ 03:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. –dlthewave ☎ 03:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. –dlthewave ☎ 03:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. No evidence this place was ever populated. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's obviously populated; even a cursory glance at topo maps or satellite imagery will confirm this. The issue is whether it's a notable and distinct locale that warrants a Wikipedia article. jp×g 22:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I stand corrected. Still, couldn't find any sources on this place other than some directory listings so there's no article to be written here. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 03:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Lobachsville, Pennsylvania per Firsfron's comment below. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: USGS maps show a couple of houses on a winding road (Heiligs School Road, per the 2019 quadrangle) in 1902, 1943, and 1957 (when it is first labeled "Pine Waters"). The label is there in 1984 and 1999, although no real development seems to have occurred there between 1902 and 2019 (wowzies). Google satellite maps show that, indeed, there is very little here. The southern terminus of Heiligs School Road seems to be in Pike Township; while a couple people live in this area, it's not obvious to me from a bird's-eye view that there is going to be much notable activity here. Like with other geostubs I've done this analysis for, if someone can come up with archive sources that establish notability, I'll !vote to keep, and if not, I'll !vote to delete, but it doesn't seem likely that any will exist. Looking forward to being proven wrong! jp×g 22:37, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Redirect to Lobachsville, Pennsylvania. The June 4, 1947, issue of the Pottstown (PA) Mercury) makes it clear that this was a location in/around Lobachsville, not a distinct community. This was a popular picnicking spot/country club and as Dlthewave says, privately owned. All news articles I can find are between 1942 and 1961. Must have been a lovely place because people would call the newspaper the moment their reservations were made, and then gush about it afterwards! Firsfron of Ronchester 04:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Firsfron's confirmation from archives -- doesn't seem that this was ever a real locale. jp×g 10:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.